Piper Arrow II — Complex Training Aircraft, Van Nuys
Van Nuys Airport · KVNY · Part 61

Piper Arrow IIComplex Training Aircraft, Van Nuys

The retractable-gear Piper Arrow II at Van Nuys, $179 an hour wet inside an enrolled program. The complex aircraft for 14 CFR 61.31(e).

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Where A Private Certificate Starts Turning Into A Commercial One

Gear that folds away and a propeller whose pitch you set. That pairing is what the word complex covers in 14 CFR 61.31(e). Enrolled, you fly it for $179 the hour, wet.

Type Piper Arrow II
Configuration Four seats, low wing, retractable gear, constant-speed propeller
Rate inside an enrolled program $179 an hour, wet
What the rate covers The airplane and its fuel
Endorsement Complex, under 14 CFR 61.31(e)
Programs it appears in The $11,700 instrument rating and the $89,000 career track
Ownership Owned by the school and maintained in-house
Field Van Nuys Airport (KVNY), Van Nuys, CA 91406

Why Complex Time Is A Phase And Not A Preference

Before commanding an airplane whose gear folds away, whose flaps move and whose propeller pitch you set, 14 CFR 61.31(e) wants ground training, flight training and an endorsement written into your logbook. 14 CFR 61.129 wants complex time inside the aeronautical experience for a commercial certificate. Those two rules together are the reason this airframe exists in the fleet.

The workload steps up for real. Gear that has to go somewhere, a propeller control that wants managing, and a checklist with no tolerance for improvising. Most students find the first two hours busy and the third one calm.

What Changes About Your Flying

Speed control becomes a planning problem rather than a reaction. A retractable airplane descends faster and slows down more reluctantly, so the arrival has to be thought about at the top of descent instead of on final. That habit is the actual skill, and it transfers to every faster airplane you fly afterward.

The gear also introduces the single most common expensive mistake in general aviation, which is arriving with it up. The procedures that prevent that are taught here as habits rather than as warnings.

Where It Sits In The Sequence

After the private certificate and usually alongside or after the instrument rating. Buying complex time before you need it is spending money early for no benefit, and 14 CFR 61.129 is the document that tells you when you need it.

A retractable airplane does not fly faster. It just gives you less time to think.

How This Airplane Is Operated

  • Ownership rather than access: the six airframes belong to the school and are looked after in our own shop, which is why the schedule does not depend on somebody else's asset.
  • Eleven people instruct here. Each carries a CFI, each holds either a commercial certificate or an ATP, and each keeps a medical in date under 14 CFR 61.23.
  • The Redbird MCX here moves and is fully enclosed, which makes it worth using for scan and procedure work. $189 gets you a session of it.
  • 355 days a year clear the minima we train to, 3,000 ft and 5 sm, on NOAA ASOS records for this field. What that measurement does not model — wind, and thin layers the sensor misreads — is published alongside it.
  • Inside a program, a single-engine hour is $179 wet — airframe and fuel. The instructor is not in that figure and never has been.
  • The price list is the website. Nothing is quoted privately, nothing is discounted for signing on the day, and no figure appears here as a range.
Before you spend anything

Fly The Aeroplane Once, Then Decide

The assessment flight is the first hour of the syllabus and a two-way evaluation. You fly it from the left seat with an instructor beside you, they write down what they saw, and you get an honest read on whether the plan is realistic. It is loggable, and it is credited in full against enrolment if you enroll within 24 hours.

What happens on an assessment flight →

6 aircraft types, owned in-house 355 flyable training days, measured at Van Nuys Every price published on the page
7900 Balboa Blvd, Suite 108, Van Nuys, CA 91406 · (747) 688-9988 · text· 9am to 9pm, seven days
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$229
60 minutes, left seat, loggable. Credited in full against enrolment within 24 hours.
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